>>>> On Monday, 16 February 2009 at 12:52 pm, in message
> <1234750932.13574_at_davidwbrown.name>, <david_at_davidwbrown.name> wrote:
>> Hello Geoffrey, I have not gone with the default anything on Linux in 10
>> years. It is only a headache.
>
> Ok, I'm not sure why they would want to put it where the default is
> anyway.
>
> The problem I'm having is figuring out where it actually IS installed.
>
> This appears to be a pre-build configuration item. Don't ask me why,
> because it seems silly.
>
>> I have run Suse in the past but I don't
>> recollect if there are any bug-a-boos about Suse that come to mind.
>
> It seems to work well enough. I've had very little trouble with it. The
> box its on is
> an ex workstation and it seems to cope quite well. Squid seems to work
> pretty well
> on it, the only issue I'm having seems to be this redirect script thing
> which so far refuses
> to work.
>
>> That being
>> said I would almost guarantee that any flavor of Linux as preferable
>> with the
>> exception of Debian/Ubuntu that a good ol' tarball of Squid should fix
>> your
>> issues.
>
> Getting it to update the existing version is going to be the hardest part.
> I've yet to find the right part of the documentation for that.
>
> I suppose I can remove the old version and just do a clean install of 3.0,
> but I'm not
> at all sure how to go about removing the version that's already there.
>
> Obviously I would much prefer that the 3.0 install simply overwrite the
> existing 2.5 install but I have no real idea how to go about that -
locate the build options for the existing 2.* install (usually displayed
by squid -v).
"./configure --help" lists what each option does, if you take the location
setting options and mirror them in the new install is should install right
over top of the old install.
Don't forget to check the log locations, default username, and default
cache directory are also pointed at the right place. There may be a
distro-specific patch to alter those.
>
> That I have no idea where on the darn system it actually lives (aside from
> squid.conf)
> doesn't help and I'm not sure what if any config stuff I have to specify
> when it's built.
>
>> 2.15 does seem somewhat dated. I only have recently begun using Squid
>> again and I started with 2.6 or 2.7 but because I needed some features
>> I now
>> find myself with the 3.x version.
>
> I've downloaded the squid 3 stable tar.gz and unpacked it on another
> SLES10 box
> that also has Squid on it (2.15 again - out of the box).
>
>> To run Linux reliably you need to not let
>> the individual flavors get you into that Microsoft type thinking that
>> you are
>> locked-in.
>
> No problem with that. I just need to figure out how to do an in place
> upgrade of the
> existing (working) squid 2.15 without breaking anything else.
>
>> It appears you are dealing with some type of prod. env.
>
> Yes, at present. We have just one dedicated proxy box. We used to use an
> 'appliance'
> a 'pizza box' with a dedicated cache, but it broke with the last round of
> hotmail changes
> so I was forced to employ squid since it seems there are no more upgrades
> for the pizza
> box - Cisco bought the cache manufacturer and it now seems to be part of
> their IronPort
> device. So it was squid or nothing... It doesn't perform as well as the
> Pizza box when it was
> working, but it's not too bad.
>
>> I would
>> like to suggest you get some Intel based box (almost anything will do as
>> long
>> as it has around a gig of mem) and install Squid 3.x. and get aggressive
>> with
>> the config such that you gain some confidence with getting your Linux
>> env
>> ironment the way you want it.
>
> Figuring out what half the crap in the squid.conf actually means/does is
> half the problem.
These days its easier to cut the comment lines right out of the config and
just use:
http://www.squid-cache.org/Doc/config
which is kept most up to date, including version change history on each
option.
> But I have this other SLES10 box I can fiddle with - the squid on it is
> not being used for anything, so I can fiddle with that
> provided I don't need to restart the box itself. (it's our RELOAD server
> - a backup system for
> Novell Groupwise)
>
> Our squid use is fairly basic, we don't authenticate or log, we have an
> appliance that
> takes care of that part, so only interested in it caching and proxying as
> quick as possible
> and (hopefully) getting this port redirect sorted to kludge around this
> 8080 issue that seems
> not to want to play nice on 2.15.
>
>> Getting things to work correctly in a beta or
>> dev. environment is much preferred and you can do a lot of config
>> changes
>> without worry. So, take the plunge and upgrade to a better Squid. 8)
>> David.
>
> The redirect *seemed* to be quick and easy to implement, I should have
> known anything to do
> with changing *nix based stuff is rarely quick and easy. That much I
> *have* learned about it so far.
> The mere fact you need to have squid call script files in .php or perl to
> do the redirect is enough to put me off. I don't speak
> C, perl, php or java.
>
> I wish they'd just pick ONE script language and leave it at that.
>
> Thanks for all your help and advice, it's appreciated.
>
> Regards
>
Amos
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